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No paste inside indicator to use for conToPath

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Wondering why I couldnt snap to point a guideline to an object when the objects appeared to be grouped. No paste inside indicator so it must be a group. Turns out I had done a paste inside before bringing the set of objects in, but why no indicator to differentiate between grouped and paste inside in MX, we always had the 4 pointed star in the middle before. This is most confusing. Some programmer simply forgot to keep this most useful feature. So why not correct that omission ?

I now need to convert to path the contents of the paste inside, in FH9 I could double click the indicator , do a ConToPath, deselect then export it as an eps, it has zero effect on this file, having come from a much more complex file. With no 4 pointed icon in the middle how can this be done in MX ? I dont wish to release the paste insides layers from the source file into this files layers, else 20 layers will become 220 ! I bet the styles list would also grow with entries I dont want ! The clipping path is not easily found so apart from the reasons mentioned, doing a cut contents means trying to find it to deselect it for the paste inside after the contopath.
I came across this omission when first trying MX upon its appearance on the market and running away from what I saw, as my work has lots of paste insides, now after this length of time how become this useful star thingy is still not back with us ?

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